DANGER in HAWAII

10958083_10153046887714530_3845158742639108572_nHawaii may be a vacationers Paradise, but don’t think for a moment something tragic can’t happen to you here in Hawaii. There are many DANGERS when visiting so as long as you are prepared and know what to look for you will be SAFE!
Vacations and Locals die here all the time…almost all of them because they are not properly prepared to deal with the AVOIDABLE DANGERS. You need to know what can and can’t kill you…When people hear that there is no animals/fish that can kill you here except for the Tiger Shark people sometimes let their guard down while out in nature…However Hawaii is WILD in it’s own way and if you don’t watch it and know what to look for and avoid…NATURE WILL bite you and you may just die from that bite.
So what are the biggest dangers in Hawaii you all need to be cautious of here in Paradise…
OCEAN DANGERTHE #1 DANGER in HAWAII is THE OCEAN
Of all the reasons people come to Hawaii is for the Ocean and Sun. The Ocean has killed more people than anything else in Hawaii and it’s because people just don’t understand what the dangers are.
WAVES are a KILLER… CURRENTS, RIP TIDES and the CORAL REEF can cut you in HALF…Drowning is the TOP KILLER here!
These are top concerns when visiting Hawaii…if you don’t understand and know the Hawaii Ocean…you shouldn’t be going in it.
The Ocean here can drop off quickly, the Waves and Currents ARE POWERFUL and they don’t always have to be BIG to hurt you. Certain Beaches are Dangerous all year and others only certain times of the year. You need to know your limits and what beaches you can and shouldn’t be going to. ALWAYS LOOK AT BEACH SIGNS and TALK TO THE LIFEGUARD on the current beach conditions to be safe! do not SWIM in Waters that have strong currents, white water and no Lifeguards to be safe. NEVER go in the ocean alone…NEVER…always have a swim buddy! WINTER brings Large Dangerous swells to the North Shores while the south shores are safer…in the SUMMER the North Shore is calm while the South Shore is more dangerousALWAYS watch for the Surf and weather forecast and look for the High and Low tide before you go out for the day…BE SMART…the more INFO you have…the SAFER you will be! If you are ever in trouble and you happen to get caught in a rip current never swim against it…always swim parallel to the beach and out of the pull current…once you don’t feel the pull and it gets weaker swim into shore!
REEF DANGERSAlways wear PROPER GEAR when swimming, surfing, snorkeling or scuba diving…wear protective clothing…don’t be foolish…Do your research on what to wear…a rash guard is essential…board shorts, fins, mask, snorkel, gloves, reef shoes, bright colors etc…Do your research because the CORAL REEF can cut you and open you up like a pig and the last thing you want to do is start bleeding in the ocean…you don’t want something else coming after you! Always be careful on any reef…above or below water…above you can slip and get knocked out or cut badly…under the water the current and waves can toss you into the reef cutting you up as well…you must be prepared for such things and if you get cut by the reef you must see a Doctor ASAP…Coral is ALIVE and can infect your skin and start to grow under your flesh…YOU DON’T WANT THAT HAPPENING! Knowledge is power and education keeps you safe!
CLIFF DANGERSOCEAN ROCK WALLS AND LEDGES are another big killer…If you are Ocean level on a rock lava wall or an ocean ledge…you have a chance to die…simple as that…If you see water on the walls or ledges you are standing on…it’s time to wake up and get off those WET areas…if it’s WET under your feet…Waves are reaching that area…and if Waves are reaching that area you will get swept away into the ocean and once you enter the ocean…you got less than a 50% chance of living. If you are near the oceans edge when it comes to rock walls there is a Good Chance you may come in contact with a BLOW HOLE or a Lava Tube that connects to the open ocean shoving water up through it….Tourists think this is fun to stick their Heads near the hole or walk over them or get only a few feet away and get wet…Well…if you think this is fun…you’ll have a 50/50 chance of seriously getting hurt or even killed!
CLIFF JUMPING is for the STUPID and DUMB…or the Daredevil Teen who doesn’t have the wisdom to realize they are risking their lives…Don’t be stupid in Hawaii and jum to your death!
TURNING YOUR BACK ON THE OCEAN….it’s right up there with turning youR back on a GRIZZLY BEAR 3 feet behind you…DON’T DO IT!
HIKING DANGERSHIKING VALLEY and RIDGES…Both can be dangerous for different reasons, but if you know the Dangers you can remain safe! We break down all the Hiking Dangers in HIGH DETAIL on an earlier Podcast called ” HIKING SAFETY” so please check that Podcast out here: //luckywelive808.com/hiking-safety-the-ins-outs-of-an-eroding-hawaiian-landscape/#more-227
VALLEY DANGERSVALLEY HIKES can be dangerous for many reason…some of them are the fact that Valleys are Humid as well as Wet and Muddy…slipping and falling is very possible on valley Hikes and the major concerns with Valley Hikes are: FLASH FLOODS, ROCKFALLS and MUDSLIDES. When it comes to entering Valleys your main goal is most likely reaching the Waterfall at the end of it…but one of the biggest mistakes people make is when they reach the waterfall at the end may it be a standing pool below it or a swimming pool below it…YOU DON’T want to spend more then a Minute or Two taking Selfies or pictures with you under the Falls…Being under a Waterfall is one of the MOST DANGEROUS places you can be in the valley…Just remember this…a Pebble the size of a Quarter or bigger falling from a very tall Waterfall wiLL crush a hole in your skull…so just remember that…If you want a seriously tragic case of this…please look up the Tragedy at Sacred Falls on Oahu. Still to this day…Rock falls happen there as well as many other waterfall locations…Also…Jumping from High Waterfalls with Large pools below…DON’T DO IT…if you jump and enter the water where the water is flowing into the pool below…yes, the water will be deep and that’s not the problem…the problem is the power of the falls can be so powerful that it can hold you down and even get you stuck somewhere under the falls…again…don’t be stupid!
RIDGE DANGERSRIDGE HIKES are even more dangerous…mainly because the Ridge is HIGHLY EXPOSED to the ELEMENTS from the Sun, to the Wind to the Rain…The Hawaiian Islands are created by Volcanic Rock…This Volcanic Rock is HIGHLY POROUS and Highly Porous rock is very EROSIVE…meaning the Ridge terrain of Hawaii’s Mountain range is never the same and always changing and eroding…You must deal with the elements and the erosive landscape…Many have died simple walking and hiking the ridge as the volcanic rock would collapse right under their feet. You also have to deal with rain and wind storms that can come and go across the top of the mountain range within minutes depending on the wind currents and trade winds.
Bottom Line HIKING is a SPORT…and with all Sports there are dangers, but when you are up against Mother Nature in Hawaii the only way you can win or stay safe is with Knowledge and Education…KNOW HIKING and Know it in HAWAII because Hiking in Hawaii is unlike hiking anywhere else because of the erosion of the Hawaiian landscape. If you are not prepared to Hike the Hawaiian Landscape and don’t educate yourself on the dangers of Hiking…You could be on the 5 o’clock news…you don’t want to be on the 5 o’clock news folks.
So lets go over a quick list of other dangers to be careful of in Hawaii…
STREET DANGERSCROSSING THE STREET
You may laugh, but Locals don’t and many have lost friends and loved ones because of it…If there is something to worry about after the Ocean…it’s other Human Drivers driving and not paying attention to pedestrians…You need to be on the DEFENSIVE and follow the laws when it comes to crossing the street and basic road rules. We see too many deaths these days from pedestrians on our streets.
 DEHY DANGERSDEHYDRATION
Always stay Hydrated at ALL TIMES while out across Hawaii…it could save your life. Strenuous activity, excessive sweating, or a fever are common causes of dehydration. So are staying in the sun too long, not drinking enough fluids, and visiting or moving to a warm region where it doesn’t often rain or hve moisture in the air. Alcohol and Caffeine only  increase dehydration. Sometimes only WATER isn’t the best idea when it comes to losing water and sodium from your body during strenuous activities so have some Sport drinks with you like GATORADE and even Sports Gels like GATORADE ENERGY CHEWS,  as well as GATORADE FUEL for before your activity and GATORADE RECOVERY for after your activity…The Gels are to be taken during your activity along with Whey Gatorade Protein Bars along with you Gatorade Thurst Quencher which is the regular Gatorade most people get.
LIMITS DANGERSKNOW YOUR LIMITS and ABILITIES
Never over estimate your Abilities…there is no reason to show off or act cool…if you do that you’ll be six feet under…know you can always turn back….never be a tuff guy and show off…BE YOU…it’s ok.
LAVA DANGERS
DON’T ATTEMPT TO WALK  LAVA FIELDS or WALK on HOT LAVA. There is little to no chance you will find your way out of a Lava field…there are no markers and getting lost or coming close to flowing lava, vents or Tubes is a sure way to be sent home in a Body Bag, that’s if they find you…DON’T DO IT unless You have a Professional Guide and Volcanologist!
COCONUT DANGERSCOCONUT TREES
Go ahead laugh again…DON’T MAKE IT A HABIT of SLEEPING or RESTING under a COCONUT TREE that have Coconuts on them….150 PEOPLE die a Year from Falling Coconuts30 times more likely than dying from a Shark…You’re not laughing anymore are you?
SUN DANGERSSUN EXPOSURE and POISONING
NO JOKE…even I got degree burns from the Hawaiian Sun after falling asleep on the beach one evening after being drunk…I only woke up when it was too late…3 hours sun exposure put me in the Hospital…Don’t be me…I’m waiting for that cancer to show up…no joke!
LEPO DANGERSLEPTOSPIROSIS
Drinking exposed water to the elements or from Farms up stream can give you Lepto…Open Cuts can also give Lepto when exposed to running water from Streams or Waterfalls…
BUG DANGERSANIMALS & BUGS
Boars, Sharks,  Centipedes, Cane Spider, Black Widow and the Jumping Spider, Cane Toads, Fire Ants, Poison Dart Frogs, portuguese man of war, Lion Fish/Scorpion Fish, Sea Urchins
*There has been words tossed around that you need to be careful at night around the islands and Honolulu and Waikiki…That people do bad things at night in HAWAII…This is just NON-SENSE…in fact Hawaii is ranked 36th out of the 50 states form crime rates…and by City of HONOLULU is in the TOP 10 at #5 for lowest Crime Rates for a City, but if you want to make a point…Yes…Humans are the most arrogant, ignorant and violence species on Earth, so yes…I would watch my back around other Humans…but I’d watch my back around them no matter where I go or what state or country I live in.

28 thoughts on “DANGER in HAWAII

  1. Last trip to the Big Island, I crashed through a blow hole at Land’s End and nearly fell into the Pacific. After tumbling ass end over end about twenty feet, I luckily landed on a cliff ledge on my back with my head hanging off. The culprit: someone had placed a boat ladder into the cave that I thought was bolted to the rock. It wasn’t, and it and I both fell backwards. So I was damn lucky. Metal ladder banging on top of me; didn’t hit my head; didn’t fall with the boat ladder weighing me down and dragging me under into deep water fronted by cliffs. The lava scraped me up pretty badly, and I walked away with minor abrasions and wounded pride. The point is: I was being cautious. Since Land’s End was a place marginally administered as a Nation Historic Site by the Park Service, I stupidly thought everything was nailed down, like the long ladders at Mesa Verde National Park in my home state of Colorado. I do think I was in “vacation mode”, which made me overly adventurous and not as situationally aware as I should have been. That whole rest and relaxation thing can kill you, man!

    • lol Greg…I could tell you stories of almost death…I should actually be dead already…I’m on my 4th life already…many don’t get such luck to learn such deadly lessons…from leaning these hard lessons I am always extra cautious…it’s not a bad thing to be that way…I don’t want to ever risk my 5th life and I don’t want others risking their 1st life…they may not get a second chance like me.

  2. aloha fellas. once great episode. love the energy you bring to the conversation. Funny that the Davis Duo was mentioned again on your show because their blog was one of the many resources that my wife and I tapped into while planning our move here. Bummer they chose to move back to the mainland and I agree with you Wayde in that I feel they have a little remorse about the decision and that they may have rushed into that decision. As the father of two young boys I can certainly relate to the many emotions they must have been sorting through. You both said so many poignant things in this episode but one of the most valuable pieces of advice was to the gentleman wondering whether he could or should make the move from Japan with his family. Wayde the thing you picked up on was his choice of words and how his use of the word “plunge” and “should we even attempt it” were very self defeating. It’s a subtle thing but you are absolutely right on. You can’t make a big, life altering move (whether to Hawaii or elsewhere) and have your head filled with doubt and fear. It’s natural but nothing will keep you more paralyzed than self-doubt. The first thing we did was right the goal to move to Hawaii down on a sheet of paper and then surrounded idea with images of what life will be like. Yes, this an idealized view, but that’s the point. You need to make it real to yourself and become accountable to it, then you chart the course and you don’t look back. I did a ton of meditating and planning to get us here. It was crazy hard work but damn it was worth every second. We love Hawaii.

    One item that I do wish you could talk about more and I’d be happy to do so on the show one day *wink.* Is moving here with kids, especially if you do not have the budget for private school. My wife and I have a ton of opinion on that subject (our boys are 2.5 and almost 5) and long story short we moved here FOR our children. I don’t agree that children are impedances to your dreams. Yes, if you are someone who has created a life where kids do not factor in, and WHAM, all of a sudden you have a kid, I can see that being a problem. We were just tired of the mainland rat race and new there was a better choice for us and our kids. Certainly, we could have moved to Florida or SoCal but what makes Hawaii a great place for kids and young families can be summed up in two words “Aloha” and “Ohana.” You know what I mean. Living on the island is a mindset and I think you generally are either in flow with it or are in resistance to it. Today for example I went out a caught some killer south shore swell and than afterwards went to a local park with my boys (and my mom :-)). While there a group of older boys, whose behavior on the surface looked a little rambunctious for our boys, were playing around. My oldest son went right up to the group of 4-5 boys and asked them what they were doing, they responded by asking if he could build a fort with them and then proceeded to show him how to weave a roof out of palm fronds. It was the sweetest and coolest thing to seem them engaging him. Totally shattered my initial suspicions. There is kindness of spirit and attitude on this island that you cannot measure with “cost of living indexes” or “wage calculation” charts. Simply put… if you want to be here, really want to be here., you’ll find a way to make it work.

    Mahalo for all the energy you put into your show. My wife and I try to keep up with our own podcast but the kids keep us way to busy. Haha.

    • I checked out your podcast and listened to Episode 9 – Life Unscripted.

      I particularly liked when you said “We’re so caught up in the negative possibilities, we’re so caught up in what could go wrong, that we fail to realize the infinite potential of what could go right.”

      This podcast gave me a boost. Thanks for that.

      • Thomas,
        I’m thrilled that you took the time to listen and really hope that it provided even an little perspective. Me moved here sight unseen and yes, there are challenges. I’d be more than happy to talk you more “one-on”one” and very transparently about any aspect of the move. For the record Wayde and Bruce’s podcast was also instrumental in our more because it provided just the right amount of “realism” to ground us.
        I wish you so much and hope we can connect.

    • JASON is 100% correct…you CAN make it here with Kids…but it makes it harder…if you are prepared to make a move with kids across the other side of the world, you must be prepared to fail as well…Your Kids come first…and that’s always been my personal issue…Once you have children you live for your children, your focus is them, not yourself…you are no longer just responsible for you…you are now the bread winner for others…This puts additional stress and burdens on you, if you take a risk and fail, you fail the entire family, not just you…I prefer not to have children and focus on my personal goals and dreams…Kids would certainly cloud my vision and put additional pressure on what I want to do at this time in my life. I would never be where I am today if I had children…In fact I almost did and if I did I wouldn’t even be in Hawaii today. If one day I choose to have children it will be because I have reached my own personal goals and dreams and are ready to focus on a family and give my children my 100% attention. Today that’s impossible. Now…this is my personal View…and it’s a good one…but Jason my have a completly different view even if he agrees with some of my statement…and that’s good…there are two sides to every coin…I just take Heads and perhaps Jason takes tails.

  3. Thank you so much Bruce and Wayde for taking the time to address the concerns I have about moving to Hawaii. I don’t expect you to take the time out of your busy schedules to have an ongoing dialogue but I just want to clarify a few points.

    I didn’t mean to come off as self defeating or negative when I used words like “take the plunge” and “should we even attempt it” I was just trying to get some real insight on how much money we would need. The city data forums are full of people claiming they make $100k+ and are just scraping by. These people must either have massive debt or really lavish lifestyles. We have zero debt and live a very modest lifestyle. But reading all the negativity on those forums really made me question myself.

    The business I have started is something I am really proud of. My customer base is located in Japan and it has taken some time to get it up and running so that it can be operated remotely. But it hasn’t been tested yet. So I plan on coming over in April on a solo trip, run some tests, and see what employment options are there for me.

    Thanks again for info!

    • Yes Tomas…you need to test out here…see if you can continue your Japanese Base here in Hawaii…there are so many coming and going to Hawaii…you should be able to tap into that. Also…a mistake many make coming and moving to Hawaii…Don’t come here with DEBT…when we gave you advice it was meant to be advice assuming you had NO DEBT!

  4. Enjoyed the podcast. Off topic question..

    How much have you guys relied on the bus system? I’ve heard it’s one of the best. However after watching a number of the Davis Duo videos (thanks for making me aware of them), it seems they spent a lot of time waiting for buses and were even late for work once due to the bus passing its stop. Also, I wonder if it’d be a major constraint for people in the hiking community… because I’d be hiking ALL THE TIME, on my free time anyway.

    I suspect it’s not for me, but I’m just curious on your experience with it.

    • I took the Bus my first 3 years here and only rode my Moped on weekends…Never a serious issue with the Bus…sometimes I would be late…but very few times…”THE BUS” is the best bus system in the united states…We are proud of that…so the GREATNESS of the Bus system on Oahu out does the few mistakes it makes from time to time. As for the Hiking question…I have NO IDEA what you are talking about…do you mean you plan on taking the Bus to go Hiking? We don’t suggest that…you should make friends with MEETUP HIKING Groups and car pool…put some gas in and people won’t mind picking you up in a central location.

      • Thanks, that’s good to hear. I’ve always read that The Bus is the best too. Yeah, I actually was curious if people rode the bus to some of the trailheads. I’m glad there’s better options.

  5. Hey Guys, Another great job. Thanks for all of the work you put into these podcasts.
    Some more quick info on me. I am 45. My oldest son will graduate this year and wants to stay in the town we live so it will just be my wife and I and our golden retriever moving there.
    My wife is a hair dresser and I work at a local business and am doing shipping and receiving at this time. We should hopefully have enough cash to buy a small house and have some extra to last us 6-12 months while we look for jobs.
    I had another idea of things to talk about and maybe you could do a podcast on fruits and veggies found at the markets? When I went to the Hilo farmers market there were so many fruits that I had never seen before. I wanted to try some but had no idea what to get.

    Thanks again and looking forward to the next podcast. Rob

  6. Bruce and Wayde,

    Sending the weekly mahalos and support for the podcasts. My morning ritual consists of driving into work listening to you guys. I sometimes walk into the office cracking up, what a great start to my day. Anyway few things….

    1. Thanks for the shout out a few shows ago. As they say on Monday Night Football Bruce, C’MON Man! You made me sound like a Wayde-Stalker. Meeting him was completely on accident! We pulled off to check out Makapuu Lighthouse and there he was. I nearly shat my pants lol. Then the next day, my family and I were just chilling at Kualoa Beach Park and he comes strolling up with another tour! Truth be told, I made my own little tour from watching his videos and plotting destinations on google maps. The journey that we went on following in the footsteps of Wayde was inspirational, filled with bumps and scrapes, but magical at the end of the trip. I experienced things that I will never forget. I do, however, follow you guys intently on social media to get my fix of Hawaii Nei.

    2. Do you guys watch the Super Bowl during the day or do you watch it at night after it has aired? How does that work given the time difference? Do you pretty much have to stay off social media and the internet so it doesn’t spoil the ending?

    3, I found a depressing article on civilbeat.com that talks about the middle class struggles in Hawaii. It is pretty much in line with your talking points. I am beginning to question my desire to move there now. Wayde did give me a glimmer of hope when he said AT&T is big on the Islands. That is who I currently work for, so that is a plus. My wife and I would have a combined income exceeding $100K so I’m sure we could make it work. I just need to find an ATT job out there.

    http://www.civilbeat.com/2015/02/living-hawaii-the-american-dream-is-broken-for-the-middle-class/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=users&utm_campaign=morning_beat

    4. Last story before I go, my first experience of Hawaii sticker shock wasn’t from the airfare or hotels. It was from my first grocery bill. On the mainland we typically will spend $150/week on food. We bought the same amount for our stay and it was $300+ I recall. I sat there in the grocery store in Kailua like a deer in headlights, totally blew my budget out of the water. A week long supply of Pineapple Beer from Maui was well worth it though.

    Aloha Nui Loa,

    Xavier

    • Ok…to your #2…We watch the Superbowl here in Hawaii at 1:30pm….That’s what time it comes on Live…#3…You can make it…You have a shine in your eye…a love for Hawaii…a Passion for it…You’ll make it, but try to secure your AT&T Job if you can in Hawaii first! #4…Yes…We talk about the Sticker Shock on Food all the time…but if you go to famers markets, China Town and buy from locals, friends and even go find fruit in the jungle you won’t have such a shock all the time…on top of that if you love Fish you can always GO CAST FISHING or Spear Fishing for you food!

  7. Great Pod again boys, so infomative. The breaking down the costs was super helpful in fully understanding what it takes to make it happen. I almost wonder if the goal should be to save up a 3rd of the $60,000 and instead of moving thre, do an extended vacation for a couple months and just enjoy the ina.

    Grat Job as always

    Mahalo

    • Jay…I assume you get vacation time every year…2 weeks? 3 weeks? 4 weeks? It’s ok to say you can’t move here…but what if your dream is something else…what if you come here every year for the lenght of your vacation…2 weeks, 3 weeks or 4 weeks…Bruce will hook you up with his condo if you get an extended stay for 2-4 weeks…it’s something to discuss with the wife…You guys can do this…You pay for flight, Bruce’s place will be as low as you can get and you just have to take and learn the bus system for the month or rent a car for half the trip…Shop at Farmers Markest while here…get cheap plate lunches…Shop at China Town…you got choices…something to think about…

  8. Loved this episode guys. Got me thinking about the level of stupid I attained during my time on the island. I still remember getting rolled at Sandy Beach, my first “scorpion” and my first experience with accidental chiropractic. Also thought about fishing for hammerhead off the pier at K-Bay (sorry in retrospect) then getting board and swimming off the same pier we had just released several sharks from. Maybe they should have eaten my foot or something for all the trouble I caused them. At any rate, here’s an article I just found, never heard of this sport but thought it was awesome. The cost of failure must be unimaginable. http://archives.starbulletin.com/2005/07/24/news/story9.html

  9. Good information, it’s important for those coming to Hawaii to know of the dangers. We have an article on this subject as well

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